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    KnockOut2
    Post subject: Name your favorite techniquePostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:39 pm

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    It can be anything….grappling, punching, kicking, throws….but be specific. Don`t just say “a right cross”…something more detailed than that. For example, how do you like to setup your right cross?

    It’s difficult to pick a favorite, so name a few of your favorites.

    Here is one of my favorite moves. It starts when I am mounted on top of someone. Being mounted can seem like a dominant position, but there are common moves that are practiced in the mount position that most people will be ready for, especially if it is in an MMA situation where punches/elbows are involved (in sparring or in a real fight). I like to practice uncommon moves from the mount. I start by grabbing the back of their neck with my left hand. I will grab their left arm with my right hand, usually grabbing onto the tricep area, just above the elbow joint (creating a wedge, so I can hold on tight if they pull away). I pull their left arm up, and I start to inch my right knee/thigh underneath their left arm. This gives them the impression that I am going for an armbar. Here comes the trick…I take my left leg and move it up toward their head, where my left foot is sort of planted above or near their head. Usually, I will lay down my left leg so that the left side of my left calf is laying on the mat above, or near, their head. This is where the subtlties come into play. I start acting aggressive to make it appear that I am about to go for a submission. I unecessarily sit my base up so that it appears that I am going for a really horrible attempt at an armbar….which gives them adequate space to sit up and slip their right arm out. This whole time, I am sitting down further underneath their right arm, making it more apparent that I am going to do an armbar on their left arm, but the whole time, I am not letting go of the back of their neck with my left hand. As soon as I feel them start to sit up, I move their right arm accross and grab my left ankle with my right hand. and apply a triangle. Usually, they are thinking armbar while I am thinking triangle, then they are in a triangle by the time they realize that I am not going for an armbar.

    The thing that has made this move work for me is the subtle change from “messy” to “tight” grappling. I purposefully use messy grappling to bait them into sitting up. In grappling, I like practicing baiting moves. Of course, this will work less on someone who knows me. It works well on someone who has never grappled with me as they don`t know if I suck at armbars or not. I think this move is easier when there are punches involved, because they are usually too concerned with getting hit from that position and are VERY happy to be given an opportunity to base up.

    Share some of your favs.
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    Lil Katai
    Post subject: PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 10:12 pm
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    lol, everyone knows mine. Lets take a poll on Colangelo ………… How many of you can guess my fav tech??? I bet there is more than just a few of you that can!

    Go ahead, guess away …………
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    Lil Katai
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    :mrgreen:
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    Jessica
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    Hummm thinking hard here… a choke “hint hint”
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    KnockOut2
    Post subject: PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 8:24 am

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    Judging by your photos… a guillotine?
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    Lil Katai
    Post subject: PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 12:35 pm
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    bing! bing! Tell’em what they’ve won Jonny!
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    Post subject: PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 1:35 pm

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    Ok, what is your favorite way to setup a guillotine?
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    Lil Katai
    Post subject: PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 3:52 pm
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    Anyway I can. I can hit it from a shit load of angles. I don’t have a fav way to do it, I just do it when it’s there. Don’t matter who I get it.
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    Post subject: PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 4:38 pm

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    I can hit it from a shit load of angles
    I thought I was on the wrong forum for a sec.
    😛
    Ok, What do think about Kimuras? I think that is an underused technique. I trained with one person who was really good at applying them. I’ve always considered Kimuras to be difficult to escape from, once they are in position. It seems that so many grapplers go for armbars a plenty, but they leave out Kimuras from their arsenal. What cha think?
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    Lil Katai
    Post subject: PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:37 pm
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    I like them, just have a hard time getting them. I don’t think I ever gotten one. Not even in training! 😡
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    Post subject: PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 2:01 pm

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    I trained at the lions den in Dallas for a few months before. We did takedown drills…where basically we all have to try to takedown whoever is in the middle. If you take them down, you get the middle spot. Anyway, Guy Mezger used the Kimura all the time as an anti takedown technique. Everytime someone would do a single leg takedown, he would slap a kimura on them. If they continued the single and got him to the ground, they would be caught in a kimura. I believe he used this technique a lot in his match against Sakuraba’s.
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    Post subject: PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 1:53 pm

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    anyone else?

    Beuller?

    Ferris Beuller?
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    Lil Katai
    Post subject: PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 8:20 pm
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    😉
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    Hook
    Post subject: PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 5:10 am

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    Right now I would have to say a collar choke in JJ, and an armbar from the gaurd in more of a MMA. I guess that I am rooting for the armbar, just because that is what I have working on so hard here lately. I am afraid that if I don’t say that my hubby will make me work on it a lot more. 😛 Just kidding.
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    Jessica
    Post subject: PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 7:56 am

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    I guess mine is the Triange Choke!

    By the way Hook, I am from Henderson, KY originally! Real close to you…Of course I live in Detroit now. Welcome to the board!

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    KnockOut2
    Post subject: PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:18 pm

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    Any armbar, or triangle choke scenarios or setups that you care to mention?

    What about leg locks? It’s been a while since I’ve been leglocked. I went through a handful of months where my training partners at the time were leg lock crazy. I also watched Tra Telligman teach another fighter some leg lock defense once, and that change my perspective on it.

    You ever notice how different the moves become when you are no longer scared of them? It seems like people going for leglocks now are going in slow motion. Strange.
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    ladygrappler
    Post subject: PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 3:53 pm

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    I would have to say at this point in time my faveortie technique is an armbar i learnd from scarfhold…switching from side mount to scarfhold you just sweep the arm between your legs as you switch your hips…as soon as you have it in there they usually dont see it coming…keep it on top of your bottom leg and throw the top leg on the fore arm…its a quick tap
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    KnockOut2
    Post subject: PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:02 pm

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    if anyone is wondering, she is talking about this move…

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    KnockOut2
    Post subject: PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:18 pm

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    here is a variation of that position which attacks the shoulder joint…

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    As you can see, the arm is bent and tucked under the bottom leg rather than under the top leg.

    Here is another picture.

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    This is basically the Americana being applied by someone’s legs in Scarfhold position. Here is an example of a normal Americana

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    KnockOut2
    Post subject: PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:21 pm

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    Another picture.

    This is also known as the “Keylock”

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    KnockOut2
    Post subject: PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:22 pm

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    some beginner grapplers often confuse that move with this move….which is the Kimura. (the one I was talking about earlier)

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    kats
    Post subject: PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:14 pm

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    I don’t remember the name of the technique but it’s a choke/mount from side controle where you grab the gi collar then bring your arm around to choke and get the mount I’ve gotten a tap out from it, also sence you still have the arm from the side controle you can use it to armlock your opponate 😈
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    WarriorHeartGrrl
    Post subject: Name your favorite techniquePostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 3:43 pm

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    I have to say the guillotine is my favorite move too. I especially like to get it in stand up and then use it as a take down for grappling. BUt, anywhere I can go for it, trust me, I do…..
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    KnockOut2
    Post subject: PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 4:04 pm

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    Kats…you go for mount or knee on stomach with that move? (trying to imagine it)
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    sandy
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    it’s would have to be the armbar from the mount, don’t know the name yet, sorry new to this! triangles are good to. these 2 I do realy well, so that is why they are my faves for right now. As I get better I’m sure that I will have other moves that I like more.
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    scarce
    Post subject: PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 2:44 pm
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    ….my best move……..is the cyber-ninja cross choke…..with one knee in the air………ha ha..(jusss jokings)…………i am a reverse choke to armbar….back to reverse choke…looks good on video…………….you better axe somebody…….
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    debi
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    I would have to say my fav , is the one that works for what ever im countering, or setting up 😉
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    scarce
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    ….just dont hurt me..debi…….i am very fragile…….shiver me timbers/woof/
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    KnockOut2
    Post subject: PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 9:50 am

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    awww, c’mon deb. You don’t have any favorites that you enjoy pulling off? in training? Perhaps a more challenging move? 🙂

     

    Rox21
    Post subject: PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:55 am
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    Heehee this post is asking all us fighters to tell you their secret moves!! Great for researching what to avoid if fighting one of us, eh? 🙄 😉
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    scarce
    Post subject: PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 3:52 pm
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    ….whoa………rox….we almost fooled…you……….but we know yours…..its no secret…………….the scissor lock choke……with neck crank by ankles…….,,,,,yikes,,,,,dangerous//////
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    Rox21
    Post subject: PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:03 pm
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    So those are my fav moves, huh? Why didn’t somebody tell me earlier? 😛 nice try. :
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    bjjamazon
    Post subject: PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:01 pm

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    My fav is the omoplata…
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    VooDooQueen
    Post subject: PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 12:37 pm

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    My favorite technique is the “dragon whipping tail”..its Shao Lin King Fu and I picked it up from my sensei’s master…Master Ingargiola out of Long Island NY…Shao Lin Self Defense Center. It is used to get out of a back bear hug …ya blow ya body out to break or at least loosen their grip ..drop on your left knee..after ridge handing the groin and/or head butting…then swing your right leg around…hook their right leg..pin it and you are on top of their backs…then..you can smash their head in the pavement…or choke em out. Its a fifth degree manuever and I did it on my yellow belt test…Sensei said…do something..so it was the first to come to mind. Its pretty sweet to see it done especially by a small person on a big person. muahahahahahaha
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    KnockOut2
    Post subject: PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:58 pm

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    omoplata? Wow, that is a rare “favorite”. cool.
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    fight4you
    Post subject: PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:09 pm

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    “Ridge handing the groin”. Nothing like adding a little sterility to make a game meaningful – and a possible social statement, to boot.

    robert
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    Post subject: PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:55 pm

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    fight4you…ya wouldnt use that in a match…its self defense…but something that is in my style of martial arts…just so happens to be my favorite. I do get rather nasty when we are told to modify and create on our own. God help you should you ever decide to mess with me on the street. I have earned the nickname of killer…and bulldog…lol. Guess I should stop playing so hard with the “boys” eh?
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    fight4you
    Post subject: PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 2:35 pm

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    well since I am neither a criminal nor a sociopath, i doubt you would find me ‘messing with you on the street”. do you run into people like that often where ever it is that you hang?

    killer? bulldog? i bet that is not the way your dear old mom imagined you when you were a squirt.

    regarding playing rough with the boys…. some guys like their peas and carrots mashed. to each his/her own. helps keeps the population in check, i guess, from a couple of different perspectives.

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    greatlaughter
    Post subject: PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:37 pm
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    Spell out my favorite submission on this forum?
    😯 I don’t think so. 😉
    a.) I can’t even spell it.
    b.) It may be the only chance I have against these fine women.
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    KnockOut2
    Post subject: PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 1:28 pm

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    lol

    aww, c’mon 🙂

    Maybe your favorite move is .. the harmbar 🙂 because it’s not just an armbar.
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    ThehoundofCulan
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    I’ve gotta say, I like to grapple, but stand up will always be my forte. As far as that goes, I love legs kicks. Escpecially against people that don’t fight Thai, since they can’t stand them (oh…a pun). With my hands, I like to upper cut from jabbing range because few people expect it and it works. I usually follow that with an overhand right or even an elbow, depending on what would be allowed, of course. On the ground I like the triangle choke, though I rarely pull it off.
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    bjjamazon
    Post subject: PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:51 am

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    Ahhhh the triangle choke…my other fav. 😀
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    KnockOut2
    Post subject: PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:29 am

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    Know any good triangle choke setups?

    How about….What do you think is the best time to throw a low kick?

    IMO, at the end of a combination. I like it when Ernesto Hoost throws a punching combination and then ends it by low kicking the far leg of his opponent (the back leg). That’s a pretty cool trick because they usually lift their front leg.
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    fight4you
    Post subject: PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:23 pm

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    So when any of you are on the top side of a “ground and pound”, do you ever get worried and are hoping there will be a quick tapout or a descending ref?
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    ThehoundofCulan
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    I like to throw my right low kick mostly. When I do, I really like to set it up off a single jab. If you are good at it and don’t level change between the kick and the punch, it works quite well. The jab covers up the face and the kick can come in right after it. I like it. As for low kicks with the left, either off a jab cross or even after parrying a jab.
    As for triangle set ups, I just like how easily you can flow between the triangle, armbar, and oma plata. I use those to set each other up.
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    KnockOut2
    Post subject: PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:07 pm

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    Question : Is the single low kick off a jab worth taking the risk of being taken down? In MMA, if you are kicking someone’s ass on the feet, then they will most likely try to take you down when given the opportunity.
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    greatlaughter
    Post subject: PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:42 pm
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    if a wrestler wants to take the fight to the ground, the fight is going to the ground. plain and simple.
    😆
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    KnockOut2
    Post subject: PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 7:11 pm

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    I’m sure that is what Mark Coleman was thinking…

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    ThehoundofCulan
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    That’s why I low kick more. And the kick off of the jab is quite fast. If you cover up the face with the jab and are in close enough, there isn’t a whole lot of room to properly shoot in, especially because it may involve them running in the knee of the leg you are kicking with. Granted, the force wouldn’t be like actually trying to knee them, but if they are hit with it, it may be enough to deter them. And, if you are using your leg kick a lot, it’ll mean that they are probably gonna keep tryin’ to take you down anyway, because people don’t like to get their legs kicked. If you’ve already landed a couple, though, they hopefully won’t have a whole lot of spring in the step to level change and shoot. Doing then jab into a low leg kick a bunch of times will eventually let them time it so that they can shoot easily, but if you throw it after you’ve done a couple hand combos earlier, they won’t know what’s coming, especially if you let your other hand feint a cross as your hips begin to turn over for the kick.
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    greatlaughter
    Post subject: PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:08 pm
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    That would all be fine if the person you were fighting was only interested in a takedown and doing no kicking or throwing of their own. I plan on making you think about my hands, my knees, my elbows, my kicks and my takedowns. But I still believe that a wrestler will take you down, period. They’ll find a way in…the only real risk of a knee is if they lead with their head and an MMA-er, let’s hope, wouldn’t do that.
    There’s more than one way to skin a fish – as my granny would say.

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    ThehoundofCulan
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    It works quite well in stand up too. I use it all the time when sparring in muay Thai class. Once it gets natural, it’s really hard to read. Then again, the guys I spar aren’t exactly the most talented…hm. I developed a new fav last night, though. It’s a left kick off of parrying their jab, but it’s set up weird. We had Saekson Janjira at our school about a month ago and the instructor just showed us the technique last night. If anyone gets a chance to see him, do it. You will hate the way you fight after he schools you.
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    Rikki
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    You also have a problem if your opponent decides to clinch and throw you instead of doing a double leg takedown.
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    ThehoundofCulan
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    I can sprawl off of a kick, it’s just a matter of how you let your foot come back. The point with any technique is to set it up or find and opening. That’s why I prefer the leg kicks, openings are easier to get and the kicks are safer. Granted, I could easily be taken down if I tried a head kick, but low kicks make it much harder. I also think getting caught in a clinch is more of a danger in punching range than in kicking range. Again, refer to Saekson, he clinches outta nowhere in punching range.
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    fight4you
    Post subject: PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 8:33 am

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    This one is for Debi P. In your video clip on this site was that one fight with a guy? I couldn’t really tell. How damaged did he end up from that anyway?

    Robert
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    KnockOut2
    Post subject: PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:48 pm

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    I haven’t heard about Debi fighting any guys. Just training with them.
    Though, I’m not Debi 🙂
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    fight4you
    Post subject: PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:09 pm

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    lucky for them that she doesn’t. It seems like a “Lose-Lose” situation for a guy to fight a girl. If the guy wins he gets a, “Yea Well you beat up a girl”. If she wins, he gets a, “Wuss, a girl beat your ass”.

    I think a guy must be a bit of a masochist to step into that. It’s kind of like answering your girlfriends’ question, “Honey Do I look fat in this”?

    No win.

    Robert
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    XcashXmoneyX
    Post subject: PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 11:25 am
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    i can honestly say i dont have a “favorite” technique. it seems that when i get hung up on wanting to try one thing in particular, the other stuff suffers in standup AND ground. in all honesty though, i get a bigger case of the smiles when i nail the sidemount escapes, the mount escapes, the reversals, the guard passes…thats the basis of everything on the ground and it will save your ass faster than some fancy submission. it is, however ALWAYS gratifying to tap some poor fool out. i guess since all i have to train with is guys, and only a miniscule fraction of the a*s kickings are handed out by me…when i do get those escapes, passes, and reversals i feel like ive accomplished more. i think a lot of times people get too hung up on submissions and that definitely shows when they roll with someone who is technically more well-rounded. i learned that the hard way.

    takedowns? no way am i telling you guys ANYTHING.

    as far as striking goes, i really dont know. mostly i train the hell out of it, get frustrated, go smack my head on the wall, and come back and tackle it again. it all boils down to relentlessly drilling something 3975927503 times until i get it right, and then drilling it more.
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