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    Rikki
    Post subject: Opinions? PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:09 am
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    Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:56 am
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    Location: Lexington, KY
    I received this forwarded email earlier today and I just wanted to share my opinion on it. I’m sure that some of you have seen it before and share my thoughts. I’d like to hear what you all think.

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    Through a Rapist’s Eyes–Please Read For your own safety!!!

    Guys, please send these to any females that you know and care about.

    Ladies, be careful and please share this with all the ladies you know.

    A group of rapists and date rapists in prison were interviewed on what
    they
    look for in a potential victim and here are some interesting facts:

    1. The first thing men look for in a potential victim is hairstyle.
    They are
    most likely to go after a woman with a ponytail, bun, braid or other
    hairstyle
    that can easily be grabbed. They are also likely to go after a woman
    with long
    hair. Women with short hair are not
    common targets.

    2. The second thing men look for is clothing. They will look for women
    who’s
    clothing is easy to remove quickly. Many of them carry scissors around
    to cut
    clothing.

    3. They also look for women on their cell phone, searching through
    their purse
    or doing other activities while walking because they are off guard and
    can be
    easily overpowered.

    4. The time of day men are most likely to attack and rape a woman is in
    the
    early morning, between 5 and 8:30 a.m.

    5. The number one place women are abduct from/attacked at is grocery
    store
    parking lots. Number two is office parking lots/garages. Number three
    is public
    restrooms.

    6. The thing about these men is that they are looking to grab a woman
    and
    quickly move her to a second location where they
    don’t have to worry about getting caught.

    7. Only 2% said they carried weapons because rape carries a 3-5 year
    sentence,
    but rape with a weapon is 15-20 years.

    8. If you put up any kind of a fight at all, they usually get
    discouraged
    because it only takes a minute or two for them to realize that going
    after you
    isn’t worth it because it will be
    time-consuming.

    9. These men said they would not pick on women who have umbrellas or
    other
    similar objects, in their hands, that can be used from a distance. Keys
    are not
    a deterrent because you have to get really close to the attacker to use
    them as
    a weapon. So, the idea is to convince these guys you’re not worth the
    trouble.

    10. Several defense mechanisms he taught us are: If someone is
    following behind
    you on a street or in a garage or with you in an
    elevator or stairwell, look them in the face and ask them a question,
    like what
    time is it, or make general small talk,….. I can’t believe it is so
    cold out
    here; we’re in for a bad winter. Now you’ve seen their face and could
    identify
    them in a line-up, and you lose appeal as a target.

    11. If someone is coming toward you, hold out your hands in front of
    you and
    yell “Stop” or “Stay Back!” Most of the rapists this man talked to
    said they’d
    leave a woman alone if she yelled or showed that she would not be
    afraid to
    fight back. Again, they are looking for an EASY target.

    12. If you carry pepper spray (this instructor was a huge advocate of
    it and
    carries it with him wherever he goes), yell, “I HAVE PEPPER SPRAY!”
    Holding it
    out will be a deterrent.

    13. If someone grabs you, you can’t beat them with strength but you can
    by
    outsmarting them. If you are grabbed around the waist from behind,
    pinch the
    attacker either under the arm between the elbow and arm pit or in the
    upper
    inner thigh — HARD. (IF you can get ahold of him.) One woman in a
    class this
    guy taught told him she used the underarm pinch on a guy who was trying
    to date
    rape her, and she broke through the skin and tore out muscle strands so
    that
    the guy needed stitches. Try pinching yourself in those places as hard
    as you
    can stand;
    it REALLY Hurts.

    14. After the initial hit, always go for the groin. I know from a
    particularly
    unfortunate experience that if you slap a guy’s private parts it is
    extremely
    painful. You might think that you’ll anger the guy and make him want to
    hurt
    you more but the thing these rapists told our instructor is that they
    want a
    woman
    who will not cause a lot of trouble. Start causing trouble, and he’s
    out of
    there.

    15. When the guy puts his hands up to you, grab his first two fingers
    and bend
    them back as far as possible with as much pressure pushing down on them
    as
    possible. The instructor did it
    to me without using much pressure, and I ended up on my knees and both
    knuckles
    cracked audibly.

    16. Of course the things we always hear still apply. Always be aware of
    your
    surroundings, take someone with you if at all possible. If you see any
    odd
    behavior, don’t dismiss it, go
    with your instincts. You may feel a little silly at the time, but
    you’d feel
    much worse if the guy really was trouble.

    PLEASE READ THEN FORWARD TO EVERY WOMAN
    YOU KNOW—-MOTHERS, GRANDMOTHERS, FRIENDS, DAUGHTERS, GRANDDAUGHTERS,
    RELATIVES, CO-WORKERS. IT’S SIMPLE STUFF BUT IT COULD SAVE THEIR LIVES.

    SEND IT TO YOUR MEN FRIENDS TOO, SO THEY CAN SEND IT TO THEIR FEMALE
    FRIENDS
    AND RELATIVES

    The only points of the forwarded email I would give any credibility to are the situational awareness blurb and the pepper spray recommendation. Though I don’t think people should carry pepper spray without training – they’ll just end up spraying themselves (or an innocent by-stander) along with the target.

    It is possible that the men interviewed were telling the truth. BUT women will read these things and think that as long as they have short hair and aren’t in a grocery store parking lot they are safe. They have a false sense of security because “those rapist said they wouldn’t attack me if (insert nonsense here)”. I never realized there were etiquette rules regarding rape…did you??

    The best things, in my opinion, that a woman could do to avoid be raped or attacked is to be aware of her surroundings and to walk as tall and confidently as she possibly can. When I have to walk somewhere that doesn’t seem safe to me I hold my head up high, straighten my back, throw my shoulders back, and look from side to side as I walk along. I’ve heard people comment that I look like I’m on a mission to kick someone’s butt when I walk like this. So now I walk that way where ever I’m going…lol!

    Women need to know that self-defense is not something that can be taught in a weekend long class (or a blurb in an email!). It takes time and dedication. Even with my three years of training I’m not confident that I would or could react appropriately to an attack. And for elderly women, the best thing they could do for safety is to buy some pepper spray and a hand gun – and go get quality training for both.

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    greatlaughter
    Post subject: PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:55 pm
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    Joined: Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:15 pm
    Posts: 259
    Location: Petaluma, CA
    I agree whole heartedly. It’s a disservice to women to lead them to believe that a 2 day class has them prepared. On the other hand, it’s better than nothing. I think best thing is: BE A BAD VICTIM – don’t be afraid to be a bitch. You won’t turn a regular man into a rapist or killer and chances are you’ll deter the rapist or killer if you show aggression. Then I think half a dozen of us should get together to hold a practical self-defense seminar for women and girls and show them some guard moves and mount escapses. Basic reverse control and get the f out moves and of course a choke or two. Then we get back to the weekend seminar thing…it’s vicious cycle. We need a culture change.

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    Seth
    Post subject: PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:51 am

    Joined: Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:15 pm
    Posts: 67
    It’s an unsubstantiated work, an urban legend.

    http://www.fightergirls.com

    Someone was trying to give credence to his instructor’s self-defense program and created this document. Yeah GL, cultural/moral change would be good.

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    Rikki
    Post subject: PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:37 am
    Instructor

    Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:56 am
    Posts: 915
    Location: Lexington, KY
    Thanks for the research Seth. Just more proof that the whole thing is bs.

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