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    ABScene
    Post subject: Weight trainingPostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 4:54 am

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    I am curious about how many of you do weight training?

    I go through phases in which I workout with weights 3x / week then I don’t train with them at all. I do BW exercises all the time (push ups, dips, chin ups, etc) but have been thinking about getting back to weights. What’s my goal? I need to be stronger! I don’t particularly want to bulk up… I don’t think that’s really possible anyway because of my body frame. I just need more strength!

    Do any of you have weight routines and if so, what kinds of weights do you use (free weights, machines, kettlebells…)?

    Thanks.

    Rebecca

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    Anthea
    Post subject: PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:56 am
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    Interesting question 🙂

    I do weight training 3 days a week (stopping about 2 weeks before a fight). My trainer devised a simple and quick programme for me to increase my strength, but most importantly so that i could do the programme in less than half an hour (I’m more likely to do it because it doesn’t take long – it’s hard to find more than half an hour spare in my day!). Anyway here’s what i do:

    bench press 3 sets of 6 reps

    squats/lunges (alternate between days) 3 sets of 6 reps

    biceps+chin ups / back seated row + press-ups (alternate) 3 sets of 6 reps (after each set then I do my max number of chinups/press-ups)

    clean lift (like the weight lifters do but only going to my shoulders) 3 sets of 6 reps

    And then that’s me for the day!
    All my weights are as heavy as i can manage and i’m always working to increase them (even if only a pound at a time). I try to use free weights were possible (i dont’ believe in machines but have to use them sometimes…).
    Gets a bit boring tho so I have to make slight adjustments every now and then to keep me interested…

    Hope this helps – i’d be interested to see what other people do too 😀

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    greatlaughter
    Post subject: PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:52 pm
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    at what weights, if you don’t mind me asking?
    your body weight/ & weight lifted?

    i don’t train with weights but the guys at my boyfriends gym are trying to get me to join the olympic lifting team. so i went in the other day to see how much weight i could push around. but i don’t know what is a lot or a little.

    i build up to 5 squats at about 140 lbs. (reps of 10 until my legs got tired) but i didn’t want to try the 1 big lift b/c i’m not used to the technique yet.

    didn’t do any snatch or clean/jerk or press – just lots of legs and tris.

    anythoughts?

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    Anthea
    Post subject: PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:09 pm
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    I weigh about 52kg (114.4 lb?), i don’t lift that much cos i’m a little weakling (who’s getting stronger pretty quickly though!) – i squat about my body weight but i bench press a lot lower than i guess i should because i don’t have anyone willing to come to the gym at 7am to spot me! (i only bench press about 44lb).

    I’m just starting out with the clean lift thing, so i’m concentrating more on technique (which I find quite complicated) and i do about half my body weight. My trainer reckons it’s good for the kind of explosive power i’m aiming to get- because i’m of the tall and skinny variety and i’ve been a long distance runner for years, i dont’ have a lot of explosive power…

    I don’t really know how much i *should* be lifting either, or what’s a lot or a little- i just work with trying to increase the weight as often as i can and i track it to make sure i’m not letting myself get too settled at a particular weight.

    Hope this helps! I’m by no means an expert though…

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    ABScene
    Post subject: PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:42 pm

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    Thanks for the replies. I had all intentions of going back to weights this week but I have not had a chance yet.

    Still working on finding a good weight routine to follow. Anthea, perhaps I will try your routine. Have you noticed an increase in your strength since starting this weight routine? How long have you been doing this routine?

    Thanks again!

    Rebecca

    P.S. Anyone else?

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    Del
    Post subject: PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:50 pm

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    geeze, just about every other on here lifts weights except for me.

    When ever I tried it, I always tweaked something so I just stick to a good diet and body weight stuff like push ups, pull ups, chin ups, sit ups, stuff like that.

    Debi or Erin or Olga or probably anyone else give some tips!

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    Anthea
    Post subject: PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:56 pm
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    Yeah surely i’m not the only one on here lifting weights! Haha

    Yep I’ve noticed an increase in my strength, although I haven’t been doing this particular routine long (about a month?). But my old routine was pretty much the same, just more things added like shoulder press / lat pulldown / triceps etc.

    Maybe try going to a personal trainer, although make sure they’re a martial arts specialist, not just some random who claims to know about it. Also if anyone tells you to do lots of reps (i.e. more than 8) then that is just going to make you toned rather than increase your strength (a standard thing for a fitness trainer to do when they see a girl is to give them a toning weights programme, it pisses me off!).

    Good luck 😀

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    Anthea
    Post subject: PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:58 pm
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    opps that smilie with the sunglasses is supposed to be an 8…

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    Mark Grassman
    Post subject: PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:38 am
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    I experienced the same thing too, Anthea. For some reason, putting an ‘8’ just before a ‘)’ does that. I checked the box next to ‘Disable Smilies in this post’ to solve the problem.

    ABScene. My advice is to do many reps with the lighter weights, if your aim is to gain strength without bulking up. Otherwise, look into Pilates(TM).

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    Anthea
    Post subject: PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 11:11 am
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    Yeah i forgot to say that my weights programme might bulk you up a bit – it hasn’t made me look gross yet though, just defined.

    I’m not too sure though if just doing heaps of reps at a lighter weight will increase your strength significantly (if that is your primary goal)? My trainer makes me keep away from those aerobic style ‘pump’ classes (which is lots of reps with light weights) as he said it’s probably doing me more harm than good…

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    ABScene
    Post subject: PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:43 pm

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    Mark, funny you should mention pilates…

    I have been told that I need to work my “core” muscles. I had pulled my hamstring muscle years ago and it still is not completed healed (perhaps it’s because I never completely rested it)! I went to a physiotherapist and and massage therapist who both told me that I had great muscle definition but my “core” muscles had not kept up causing me to get injured much easier. This was evident when they had me do some exercises which looked really easy to do but were not that easy when it came down to it. A simple exercise of lifting my leg up WITHOUT twisting my back was a real challenge for me! Doing pilates or yoga was suggested to me.

    Pilates apparently is very good for working these core muscles. I have never tried it… yet. We have tried hiring yoga instructors to teach a yoga class at our school but they seemed to only teach “old persons” yoga. WAAAAAAY to slow for me! We are trying out another yoga instructor who promises that it will be geared more towards athletes. We have a “tryout” class next Wednesday so we will see how that goes.

    As far as the weights, I guess I am not really concerned so much that I am going to bulk up… in fact, I have bulked up since I first started martial arts. I’m pretty sure that my body type (“bean pole”) would have a hard time getting really big anyway.

    Well, gotta go teach class now!

    Thanks again!

    Rebecca

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    KnockOut2
    Post subject: PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:59 pm

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    Yes….ALL fighters should do core strength training!
    I did some of this for the first time over the last summer and the results were amazing. I only did it for a little over a month. Some of what I did was pilates, but pilates is not the only core strength training. You can find lots of information online.

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    KnockOut2
    Post subject: PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:01 pm

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    A lot of the training I did was balance-based stuff.

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    ABScene
    Post subject: PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:36 pm

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    Wow, awesome exercises on that site! I like the look of those. I’m going to have to try them out. I love finding new exercises to do as it keeps me motivated. My fitness kickboxing students may not like it as much as I make them do the exercises too but hey… it’s good for them! 😈

    Great stuff!

    Rebecca

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